Note from Tina: There are many faces to this battle and I am currently featuring a total of seven different people who are all affected by narcissism. Some are divorcing a narcissist, some share custody with a narcissist, one is a man who is affected by his ex-wife’s personality disorder and one is an amazing young woman who is away at college but still feeling the effects of her father’s narcissism. Our newest blogger went from high-profile to homeless– without her children. While we are all different, we share the same story—the same trials and tribulations. There are many faces to this battle and I am happy to share them with you. -Tina
“Thrown to the Wolf” ~ Blog 1: Intro and Bio
It’s pretty hard to tell you about the hellscape that is “divorcing a narcissist” when I’m more focused on making sure he doesn’t find this blog and figure out it’s me than on crafting sparkling prose and flashy metaphors. He stalks me online, among oh so very many other debilitating nightmares, so I can’t be very specific. Let’s just say I’m a middle aged, well educated, formerly (i.e. pre-him) successful professional and mother of two who is now (i.e. post-him) living in a shelter, dependent on hand-outs. A shadow of my former hard charging, high profile self. Guess where my children are. You know, the ones I couldn’t leave him alone with during the ‘marriage,’ lest he starve, abandon or terrify them. The ones whose sonograms and amnios he wouldn’t attend though happily unemployed. The ones that, like his ‘wife’, didn’t exist unless there was an audience for which to perform. No audience? No acknowledgement of your existence, or, at least, not the kind any healthy person would want.
If you want to know what it feels like to be a ghost, marry a narcissist. When he has no use for you – and you wouldn’t be in his life if he wasn’t siphoning something from you — you simply don’t exist. You certainly have no desires or preferences that even register, let alone make an actual difference. Two examples. First day home post-surgery, I asked him to hand me our six month old; he’d been there when the doctor had told me not to lift him, or anything else, for six weeks. Co-dependent, slow learning fool that I am, it took me four seriatim requests to accept that he had, indeed, heard me. He was just ignoring me. Didn’t even break stride, no matter how much I increased the volume with each request. “Not even the first day?” I said to his back as he headed off to do something that actually mattered to him. “Really?” Three days later, I was inspecting my burst stitches in the bathroom mirror and wondering how much worse things were going to get.
Second example: I’m nine months pregnant with our second child (See? Slow learner), he pretended not to see me as I writhed on our bed in our tiny room, my stomach such a sudden agony I couldn’t draw breath enough to speak. But he’d been on his way out, as usual, and he was angry again, as usual. Always angry. There was no point in asking why. I wish I could tell you the phrase I use for his vicious, filthy, boundless rage – so awful, it makes the kids run to hide in a closet together — because it’s perfect, but I’m sure it’s in his regular roster of search terms.
He was slamming doors and drawers so fiercely, the baby – the one who burst my stitches — was screaming. Which made him even madder. So, when our eyes met in the dresser’s mirror – mine huge with fear and pain, his narrowed with annoyance at my having caught his attention — I saw his decide not to have seen me. I stopped existing. You won’t believe me when I say I could see the doors closing in his eyes but I always could, once he stopped pretending to care. My jackknifing made that wooden bed slat that always came loose clatter to the hardwood floor and the baby screamed louder, frightened by the noise from nowhere. But my ‘husband’ never reacted at all. He made for the door without looking back at me. Without breaking stride, he closed the baby’s door in his face as he wailed mere inches away. He drove away with our only vehicle as I clutched his unborn child and rode the pain out. The next day, I was up the rickety, pull-down stairs to the attic I hated, setting off bug bombs because the fly swarms had returned and it was “my turn”.
If you want to know what it feels like to be hunted, divorce a narcissist.
Even though I let him ruin me with his ‘get rich never’ schemes during the ‘marriage’ (I kept waiting for him to come home with magic beans), then gave him everything but a kidney, joint custody included, during the divorce, we spent three years more in court than wed. I stopped counting the lawyer fees at the $100,000 mark. We’d be there still had I not finally ‘given’ him custody rather than live under a bridge with my babies. He was so deranged by then (how maddening of me to continue to exist after he had no further use for me!), so exempt from the control of all charged with that responsibility, I had no choice but to fold. He would have killed us all. The newspapers would have tsk-tsk’d over our slumped bodies and bemoaned our ‘high conflict’ divorce, a nincompoop phrase indistinguishable from condemning a rapist and his victim for their ‘high conflict’ sexual relationship.
Would it interest you to know that, when I ‘gave’ him custody, he was officially designated too dangerous to be alone with them even telephonically? That, rather than do ‘humiliating’ supervised visits, he chose not to see them for nearly three years? That he couldn’t enter their school unchaperoned by its burliest employee and that the principal had to be present at meetings because no one would be alone with him? How about that four of his attorneys had to petition the court to be relieved from representing him, citing his bizarre behavior? One did so mid-trial (just as the judge was about to order the supervised visits lifted, since the ex refused to do them), one after having to evacuate the entire firm and call the police. When the law arrived, he tried to get a restraining order against them, as if he were the one cowering in his parking lot.
So, you can see why I worry about being outed. He is obsessed with me, a fact duly noted by officialdom but, somehow, not disqualifying in a parent. Neither was brutalizing his seven year old into a psych hospital, being demonstrably delusional, or a congenital liar.
On the other hand, he’s so irrational, so utterly incapable of recognizing his behavior as demented, that he may well not think to track me using search terms that would lead him here, like:
–obtaining a permit to turn my house, i.e. a home he was not on the title of, into a duplex.
–obtaining my HIPAA records, like my welfare application, to prove I’ve committed fraud. His stated goal is to have me incarcerated.
–having the kids secretly listening in on speakerphone for weeks while we argued to ‘prove’ to them that I was a horrible person.
–stealing my computer, reading all my emails and files and entering them into evidence.
—emailing (and god knows what else) my friends and colleagues filth about me bcc so I have no way of knowing what all he’s sent or who all’s received them.
–refusing to pay child support for years even when we were twice on the brink of homelessness because of it. The second time won him custody of kids he’d chosen not to support or see for years.
The only thing crazier than he is is the system which makes such ‘outcomes’ possible. Stay tuned for a story you’ll have a hard time believing. ###
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This sounds like the craziness I have been dealing with. I have put off divorcing him because I know he is going to get really frightening and strange and we have a 4 year old son involved. He is already trying to peg me as inhibiting his relationship with our son even though he never tried to contact him for two straight months. Now suddenly it is the holidays and he is making himself out to be super dad, spending over $500 on gifts for both of us including a smart phone for the little one! I am so scared the court system is going to fall for his charming bullshit. I can not risk my son falling victim to his father. Any visit with him leaves him stressed and unable to process his anger toward his father. These men are nothing but pure poison.
Wow I totally relate to your story. I feel bad for you. I was married to the same guy. I am hunted too. Mine plays little, well timed psychological tricks that are hard to keep track of but drive me crazy. The intent. They are like a hundred little pokes of a knife, each just breaking my skin. If I say anything to anyone I get the response “so?” because one or two things are no big deal but when you add up the hundreds over the last 4 years it’s a stunning display of sociopathy. If he is not going at it his lawyers are. Nobody believes me because lawyers don’t do that.{unless they get a !@#$load of money}
But he looks good, talks good, has a lot of money. As they say in psychology class, “he presents well” I look and speak like an apocalyptic war veteran. I totally relate to the people shouting crazy things on street corners now. I understand them. I know they have experienced something beyond human capacity in their lives. That they were not listened to, not believed, lost something tremendous, lost their lives and souls. Now I am the crazy person shouting “Pray for Us.”
READ the book “why does he do that? inside the mind of angry and controlling men” by Lundy Bancroft. He writes about how the fact that you were the target of this narcissistic person-you are the one who comes across as crazy while he looks “put together,calm and rationale”…..it helps you to understand why you come across as crazy etc…..
I understand …Ive been there too
Having had a relationship with this type of sociopath it is extremely (impossible) to feel safe , both during the marriage and especially after….
I am so sorry and I know. I wish I could hug you and break down and cry. No person should have to endure this abuse and I have said myself about my own situation “at least Richard Ramirez had the decency to kill his victims”. People do not understand nor can they wrap their minds around this type of human hunting with mind bending twists which noone told us was a winner takes all game in every sense of the word. I have been dealing with mine for many years with a brief respit while he was incarcerated but he got out with more power, more money and more tricks. He is polished in his skills and I feel sorry for any woman or man who encounters him. (he says he was a professional firefighter somewhere during his prison stint)
I am so sorry for your children and I hope and pray you get peace and joy (and money) with them back in your life. I know it’s difficult but little by little you can recover. I am in that mode myself. I see some light which was not there but I am faced with the wreckage of the war I have been in. There was no light previously so know you aren’t alone and I believe you. You can’t make this crap up and if you’ve dealt with the bad guys in family court “business”, you no longer believe “lawyers don’t do that” or “a licensed psychologist would not risk their license like that”.
Tina is doing a great service letting people tell their stories and hopefully find some healing in the process.
Your story moved me more than any of the others. My heart aches, I can feel your pain. It’s unfathomable how the courts fall for these npds. All that you shared and he has custody? Even a child could see that that is not right. A child could look at most all of our stories and make a common sense decision that our babies are safer with us. It is so disheartening. I become a weak, shaking mess passing my baby off to my sick, disturbed npd. I have to almost go into a trance until the baby is back safe with me. You must be in the same trance or else it would be too overwhelming. I pray for all of us fighting for our children.
I’m so sorry. The story you describe sounds like the chapter before the pivotal, break from reality in which the abuser murders their victim.
I dearly wish we as a society would call this as it is: psychological torture.
I hate that you went through it, but I love how you described the willfull ignorance. We are ghosts in our homes, in our lives, in our own bodies.
I would love to see the courts stop pretending like integrity can be discriminatory, that as long as this despicable behavior is not targeted at a child, somehow it has nothing to do with what kind of parent a man or woman will be.
Your life story is pure hell. It was chilling how much I could relate to it. This is the most severe form of domestic violence out there yet is not even recognized as such! That fact alone, can make a person go crazy.
Your intro stating: “when I’m more focused on making sure he doesn’t find this blog and figure out it’s me than on crafting sparkling prose and flashy metaphors” truly resonnated with me. The forboding sense of being stalked like prey that they evoke onto their target is unbelievable.
I am one of the lucky ones. I got myself and my kids out. He does not dare try to contact me. But, I know I will never be the same. My divorce took 5.5 years and almost cost me my life. I was reduced to a shell of a humanbeing before the divorce even began and by the grace of God survived.
I just think it is absolutely imparative that we lift up and support each other in any way we possibly can. Who knows but we survivors, what these terrorists are exactly like…and how we can beat them at their own game.
My every prayer goes out to you dear sister.
I am so sorry. I lost my professional self as well, but was able to keep 3 of my 4 children. The oldest chose to live with his father and the courts don’t care that a straight A student now is barely a C student, has lost weight to the point the pediatrician is concerned, and sleeps all through school..he says he wants to live with his father. I don’t even know if he is saying that because he is afraid of his father like his sibs are, or if he truly wants to live there. I can only imagine the hell you are going through. Please know someone out there is praying for you and your children.